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"Lee" Subject: How do I create a newsgroup? Help!! Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Message-ID: <01bdd09f$493c2da0$05a6bfd1 @ user> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.191.166.5 Date: 25 Aug 1998 20:10:08 -0800 X-Trace: 25 Aug 1998 20:10:08 -0800, 209.191.166.5 Lines: 3 Path: newshub.northeast.verio.net!news.idt.net!news.vphos.net!209.191.166.5 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1142 How do I create a newsgroup? How and do I have to register it and how do I get it on the net? Please help email me at lee @ amouse.net thanks.
Path: news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: eacalame @ flash.net (Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net>) Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: How do I create a newsgroup? Help!! Date: 25 Aug 1998 20:36:54 PDT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 611 Message-ID: <35e376ac.6513181 @ news.concentric.net> References: <01bdd09f$493c2da0$05a6bfd1 @ user> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts007d24.aus-tx.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1143 On 25 Aug 1998 20:10:08 -0800, "Lee" wrote: >How do I create a newsgroup? How and do I have to register it and how do >get it on the net? Please help email me at lee @ amouse.net thanks. I think the guide will answer all those questions. If not feel free to call on me. If you are only interested in an alt. newsgroup just ignore the part that does not apply. Regards, Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> ======================================================== Guides for Creating Newsgroups Index: Guide for Creating a Big Eight or Local Newsgroup Guide for Creating an alt.newsgroup Greetings, The guides below should answer most, if not all, of your questions about newsgroup creation. The heart of the guide is the standard FAQ's and where they can be found. The guides attempts to fill in spots where the FAQ's are vague. The alt. And, so called, big eight newsgroups, are international in scope. They should not be used if the subject is of local interest only. An example, of a local newsgroup, would be a newsgroup about the lakes near Austin, Texas. Such a newsgroup should be created under the austin.* hierarchy. Alt. newsgroups are simple to create and require only that you place a proposal in the newsgroup alt.config for critique. After that, and you have considered all valid comments, you can send the control.newgroup control post to create the group. The second guide pasted below covers the creation of an alt. newsgroup in detail. A proposed big eight newsgroup must complete a process of review, discussion, (RFD or Request for Discussion), and voting. (CFV or Call for Votes.) The process is long. Usually three months or more. The process is started by sending an outline, of your proposed newsgroup, to group-mentors @ acpub.duke.edu. A proposed new newsgroup must gather one hundred yes votes more than no votes and the yes votes must be two thirds, of the total votes. The process is run by appointed mentors. The process, with examples, are thoroughly covered in the FAQ's listed in the guide and requires no further explanation. The reward for following the more involved big eight process is assured distribution of your newsgroup worldwide. The alt. newsgroup may, or may not, be accepted by Usenet news servers. Local, regional and national newsgroup hierarchies have their own requirements and must be contacted for those requirements. Please keep in mind that once the newsgroup is created the group is not yours. It is in the public domain and you have little, or no, real control over it. There are no charges for creating a newsgroup. Nor do you have to provide any software or storage space on your computer.
============================================= Guide for Creating a Big Eight or Local Newsgroup Revised 1 May 1998 Creating newsgroups for the comp., humanities., misc., news., rec., sci., soc. or talk. hierarchies, the big eight, is somewhat complicated but has mentors to guide you through the process. A proposed big eight newsgroup must complete a process of review, discussion, (RFD or Request for Discussion), and voting. (CFV or Call for Votes.) The process is long. Usually three months or more. The process is started by sending an outline, of your proposed newsgroup, to group-mentors @ acpub.duke.edu. A proposed new newsgroup must gather one hundred yes votes more than no votes and the yes votes must be two thirds, of the total votes. The process is run by appointed mentors. The process, with examples, are thoroughly covered in the FAQ's listed in the guide and requires no further explanation. For information on starting a big eight newsgroup read the following documents. http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/ http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/how-submit.faq http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/good-proposal.faq http://www.faqs.org/usenet/alt/naming.html For information on starting a moderated newsgroup read the following documents. http://www.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/news/moderated-ng-faq For information on starting a local, regional or national hierarchy newsgroup locate that groups config, or general, newsgroup. ( Example: austin.usenet.config ). I have found that at times you will not be able to obtain such information from the newsgroups. You would then contact your ISP and try to obtain such information, or advice, from the system administrator. After all attempts to obtain the conventional procedures for creating a newsgroup in the hierarchy have failed go ahead and sent the newgroup control message. You can do no harm. The newgroup control message will either be accepted or rejected by the system administrators. (You may also then receive the information you were seeking along with other suggestions :-)
=============================================== Guide for Creating an alt.newsgroup Revised 1 May 1997 index: First things first: More useful information: Information for starting a moderated newsgroup: An Overview: Creating your newsgroup: Example newgroup Proposals: Newsreaders That Will Send a Newgroup Control Message: Example, newgroup control post; header and body: Example newgroup Booster: What Comes After: Follow Up: First things first: Download, print out, make a file, and read the following.(Very important) http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/good-newgroup.html For information on starting a moderated newsgroup read the following documents. http://www.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/news/moderated-ng-faq An Overview: NO ONE can keep you from creating an alt. newsgroup. NO ONE can make a Internet Service Provider (ISP) carry your group on their server. NO ONE can effectively remove your group, except the Internet service provider, and then only from his server. Most servers automatically reject rmgroup messages. There are no charges for creating a newsgroup nor do you have to provide any software or storage space on your computer. Creating a successful alt. newsgroup will take about two-weeks. Distribution over the usenet system, once created, may take as much as a month or more. (You should see some results within minutes.) There are no votes needed for alt.* newsgroups. A charter is not required but you should provide a description of the groups purpose. A format familiar to system administrators should be used so that they can quickly determine if it is of interest to their operation. (That is the purpose of following the format of the template) Justification for the group should explain why it is needed. A large mailing list and/or frequent discussion of your newsgroup subject, in other newsgroups, should be mentioned. Post supporting your proposal should be sent to your e-mail address. NOT alt.config. You can summarize the messages of support in the justification portion of the control message. In your control.newgroup message you should mention that the newsgroup was proposed and discussed in alt.config, giving the date (and ideally the Message-ID) of the proposal. This information should appear early in the message since many news administrators, will ignore any newgroup messages that don't mention alt.config in the first page. ( I suggest putting the information in the comments portion, in the body, and the summary field of the header.) The biggest obstacle you will have to overcome is getting the Internet service provider, systems administrator, to allow your newsgroup on their server. Good propagation is second, in importance, only to the proper creation of your newsgroup and is more difficult to obtain. If your creation is on one or two servers, out of several thousand, your creation will fail. That is why following the documents (FAQ's), while writing the proposal, control and booster post, is important. Creating your newsgroup: The group you want to create may already exist. Download and check ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/config/ (select newsgroups.z). This will give you a complete list of alt. newsgroups, and hierarchies, in existence; not necessarily in use. The list will help you name and place your newsgroup in the proper hierarchy. (very important) Creating a newsgroup essentially involves three stages. Writing a proposal which will be posted to alt.config for discussion. Writing a control.newgroup post which can be the same as the proposal except it has control: and approved: fields in the header. Writing booster post after the newsgroup is created. The booster is exactly the same as the control.newgroup post except at the beginning of the message, in the body, after a blank line, the word "booster" is written. Control and booster post are posted to alt.config and the newsgroup you are creating. (alt.config,alt.group-name) The best source of information, concerning the creation of an alt. Newsgroup, is contained in a document titled "How To Write a Good Newsgroup Message" by Mr. Brian Edmonds. It can be found at URL http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/good-newgroup.html Pay particular attention to his "must", "should" and "should not" instructions. The document by Mr. David Barr is also strongly recommended; especially the part about newsgroup naming conventions. Naming your newsgroup is extremely important. Some news servers cannot work with improperly named newsgroups because of software limitations . It can be found at the web URL address http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html The Proposal When you prepare your newsgroup proposal try to keep the discussion of the proposal too one screen if possible. A long proposal may not be read. Use the comments, charter and justification sections of the template example, below, as a guide. Let your proposal stay on alt.config, for discussion, about a week. There may be suggestions for changes. Consider the suggestions carefully. If there are no suggestions you can assume the proposal is acceptable. Then, incorporating any changes, you deem necessary, send your newgroup control post. ==sample proposal to be sent to alt.config for critique (template)== Newsgroups: alt.config Subject: [PROPOSAL] alt.the-name-of-your-newsgroup Comments: Who you are and what your newsgroup is about. For your newsgroups file: newsgroup name A few words describing the newsgroup. One line. Do not run over. {Follow the format above exactly; copy the first line "For your newsgroups file: " verbatim, and on the second line give the name of the newsgroup, followed by one or more spaces followed by a few words describing the group. Do not run over the end of the line!) Charter: The purpose of the charter is to define what topics are (or are not) appropriate for the newsgroup, and to state any applicable policies of the newsgroup (for example, no binaries if the group is not a binary newsgroup.) Justification of Readership: Here you should include numerical evidence that there is substantial online interest in the topic of the newsgroup. If the topic is covered by an existing newsgroup, mailing list, or other discussion forum, you should also explain why the existing forum is no longer adequate for the purpose. This also applies to creating a specialized subgroup of a more general newsgroup; you will need to explain why the split is necessary ("we don't want to use the general group" is not considered an adequate reason-- only a high volume of traffic in the general group, and/or a high percentage of that traffic being on this specific sub-topic, is considered a valid justification for a split). ===end of sample proposal post to alt.config (template)=== The Free Agent Newsreader (Agent is essentially the same) To obtain the required headers with Free Agent you must find the agent.ini file (agent configure with windows 95 or just agent). Open the file by clicking on the icon and using notepad. Find the section labeled [message] and then find ShowAllFields=0. Change ShowAllFields=0 to ShowAllFields=1. Save and Close the file. Close and restart Free Agent. Click Post on the menu. Click New Usenet Message. Click message on the menu Click on All Fields. The last action will open a new fields box. In this new box you will find the new control and approved headers. You can scroll the fields using the buttons on the right side of the box. To enter data in the control field highlight the control field by clicking on it. Below the box you will see a box now marked as Value for control. In this box enter the control data. Click on the highlighted control again and the data in the value box will be transferred to the highlighted control field. Repeat the operation for the approved field and all fields you wish to change in the box. The Control Message: Your proposal has been posted and you have finished making any changes you deemed needed. You are now ready to send your control.newgroup message to create the newsgroup. Below you will find a sample (template) that will help you format that message. You will notice that the body is almost the same as the proposal was. All that is changed is the comments: section. The focus of this section is the formatting of the headers. You must have Approved: and Control: fields in the header. ==START OF CONTROL.NEWGROUP TEMPLATE====== ======braces are for grouping only. Do not use ==== From: {email address of person sending this message} Newsgroups: alt.config,{alt.name-of-newsgroup-being-created} Control: newgroup {name of newsgroup being created} Subject: cmsg newgroup {name of newsgroup being created} Summary: discussed in alt.config, substantial interest, appropriate name Expires: {this should be left empty, in a newgroup message} Approved: {email address of person sending this message} Sender: {email address of person or administrator sending this message} Follow up-To: poster {follow ups default to emailing you, instead of posting} Reply-To: {email address of person requesting creation of the group} Distribution: {this header should be empty except for a single space character; especially don't use "Distribution: world"} Organization: {your organization or institution may be named here} Keywords: {here you may include keywords related to the topic of the group} Cc: {you may specify email addresses to send a copy of this message to} (make sure you have a blank line here, between the header, above, and the body, below) Comments: State the dates (e.g. "during 1/96") was discussed in alt.config, and who you are in relation to the proposal (especially if you aren't the original proponent). Many news administrators, will ignore any newgroup messages that don't mention the posting of the proposal to alt.config. ) For your newsgroups file: newsgroup name A few words describing the newsgroup. One line. Do not run over. {You must follow the format above exactly; copy the first line verbatim, and on the second line give the name of the newsgroup, followed by one or more spaces followed by a few words describing the group. Do not run over the end of the line!) Charter: The purpose of the charter is to define what topics are (or are not) appropriate for the newsgroup, and to state any applicable policies of the newsgroup (for example, if the group is "retro-moderated", you should explain the criteria that will be applied by the moderator or moderation software. Justification of Readership: Here you should include numerical evidence that there is substantial online interest in the topic of the newsgroup. If the topic is covered by an existing newsgroup, mailing list, or other discussion forum, you should also explain why the existing forum is no longer adequate for the purpose. ======END OF CONTROL.NEWGROUP TEMPLATE=== ===START OF SAMPLE CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE==== Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.real-estate.aust Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Control: newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Followup-To: poster Approved: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Reply-To: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Summary: Discussed in alt.config 3/14/98 Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au Keywords: real,estate,australia,buy,sell Comments: On the 3/14/98 a newgroup suggestion was posted to alt.config, Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au I am the party suggesting this newsgroup to fill a great need. For your newsgroups file: alt.real-estate.aust Bringing together buyers & sellers no middle man Charter: Appropriate topics are listing for sale by sellers & requests for purchase for Australian real estate by persons anywhere in the world. Justification for Readership: There is a great amount of on line interest in real estate transactions, as seen by commercial web sites. Many people would prefer not to expose themselves to professional sales people, thus this newsgroup should give these people in Australia & potential international investors, a forum. ===END OF SAMPLE CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE======= Cross post your control.newgroup post to alt.config and the group being creating. Only a comma between the two; no space. (alt.config,alt.group-name) A successful newgroup control post WILL NOT show up in alt.config even though it was addressed to that group. You will find it in the CONTROL newsgroup (it may be listed as control.newgroup on your ISP's server), if the post was successful. There may be 40,000, or more, post in control so It may be hard to locate. Use your find tool and If your newsreader has a filter (kill file) you might filter out the word "cancel" too get rid of most post that are of no interest too you. Sorting the group by subject can also help. You will have little trouble finding your control message if your ISP has the control.newgroup newsgroup. Every Internet service provider that accepts control.newgroup post automatically will create your group on that server immediately when received; or pass the newgroup.control post on to the system administrator for action. Always remember; You are addressing systems administrators with your proposal, control and booster post. They must make quick decisions on your newsgroup along with many others. The Booster Messages: The booster messages are control.newgroup messages. The only difference you make in the control.newgroup message is to add the words "booster" in the Summary: and Keywords: fields. Also as the first words in the body of the control.newgroup body. There are always new news servers, and system administrators, coming on line so you should send booster control.newgroup messages from time to time. I recommend posting a booster about every week for the first month after your newsgroup is created. Once a month for the next six months and perhaps once every six months to a year after that. ==START EXAMPLE BOOSTER CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE=== Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.real-estate.aust Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Control: newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Followup-To: poster Approved: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Reply-To: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Summary: Booster, Discussed in alt.config 3/14/98 Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au Keywords: Booster, real,estate,australia,buy,sell BOOSTER BOOSTERBOOSTER Comments: On the 3/14/98 a newgroup suggestion was posted to alt.config, Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au I am the party suggesting this newsgroup to fill a great need. For your newsgroups file: alt.real-estate.aust Bringing together buyers & sellers no middle man Charter: Appropriate topics are listing for sale by sellers & requests for purchase for Australian real estate by persons anywhere in the world. Justification for Readership: There is a great amount of on line interest in real estate transactions, as seen by commercial web sites. Many people would prefer not to expose themselves to professional sales people, thus this newsgroup should give these people in Australia & potential international investors, a forum. ==END EXAMPLE BOOSTER CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE=== Newsreaders That Will Send a Newgroup Control Message: What none of the FAQ's make clear is that your newsreader may not have the special header fields needed to send a control post or how to get those header fields. There MUST be "Control:" and "Approved:" fields IN the header. Free Agent, Agent and News Xpress newsreaders can produce these header fields for IBM type PC users. For Macintosh users the MT-Newswatcher can be used. All the suggested newsreaders are freeware and can be found at the URL's following..... windows 95 http://tucows.texoma.net/adnload/dlfreeagent.html http://tucows.texoma.net/adnload/dlnxpress.html windows 3.1 http://tucows.texoma.net/softnews.html#freeagent http://tucows.texoma.net/adnload/win3x/dlnewsxpress3x.html Macintosh http://tucows.texoma.net/mac/adnload/dlmtnwmac.html To configure the MT-Newswatcher perform the following. From the menu click on FILE click on PREFERENCES Scroll down to Extra header lines Type in control: Type in approved: Click OKAY The Free Agent Newsreader (Agent is essentially the same) To obtain the required headers with Free Agent you must find the agent.ini file (agent configure with windows 95 or just agent). Open the file by clicking on the icon and using notepad. Find the section labeled [message] and then find ShowAllFields=0. Change ShowAllFields=0 to ShowAllFields=1. Save and Close the file. Close and restart Free Agent. Click Post on the menu. Click New Usenet Message. Click message on the menu Click on All Fields. The last action will open a new fields box. In this new box you will find the new control and approved headers. You can scroll the fields using the buttons on the right side of the box. To enter data in the control field highlight the control field by clicking on it. Below the box you will see a box now marked as Value for control. In this box enter the control data. Click on the highlighted control again and the data in the value box will be transferred to the highlighted control field. Repeat the operation for the approved field and all fields you wish to change in the box. The News Xpress Newsreader The two News Xpress readers are simpler to configure than Free Agent. New Xpress 1.0 beta # 4 for Windows 3.xx. Click on Config. Click on Preferences. Click on Headers In the box marked Post headers template type in the control: and approved: header fields. Close the box and click Post. Your new fields will now be visible. News Xpress version 2.0 for Windows 95 Click on File Click on Options Click on Compose In the Template section , in the post headers box, type in the control: and approved: header fields. Close the box and select Post from the menu. You will now see the new control and approved header fields. What Comes After: After the control.newgroup post has been sent, and you have confirmed it was successful, you may get several post similar the one below. They are for system administrators and you need take no action. To: Subject: From: news @ duey.c4c.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 20:17:31 +0000 e.Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> @ worldnet.att.net requested that alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs be created. To do this, type the following: /usr/local/news/bin/ctlinnd newgroup alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs y e.Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> @ worldnet.att.net Follow Up : You have done all the above and you still do not see your newsgroup on the server of your ISP. Check for new newgroups or refresh your newsreader newsgroup list and check again. If it still is not there after a day or two give your Internet service provider a call and request that it be added. Usually a post to support @ (your ISP.net) requesting the newsgroup be added will do the trick. To get good distribution of the newsgroups encourage all, who would be interested, to ask their Internet service provider to add the group to their server. (A polite announcement, of the creation of your newsgroup, to newsgroups with similar, but specialized interest, would not be out of order.) After the new newsgroup has been up and running for a few months, you should write a review of the group and submit it to news.groups.reviews. See http://www.superb.net/~islander/ngr/ for information about news.groups.reviews. Good luck. If you need further help feel free to call on me. Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Austin, Texas USA http://www.angelfire.com/tx/calame
Path: 210.170.128.51!newsfeed1.dti.ad.jp!news2.dti.ad.jp!news-jp-0.abone.net!np0.iij.ad.jp!news.iij.ad.jp!news.din.or.jp!not-for-mail From: hmm @ hmm.hmm (allegedly christopher) Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: responsibility? Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 04:40:33 +0900 Organization: . Lines: 46 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp02-206.din.or.jp X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.10 x-no-archive: yes Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1137 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hello (thank you for your very useful posts about creating newsgroups, Eugene) I would like to create (or someone to create) groups about Dadaism. Since I noticed that there are too many "poems" of peronal creation posted to alt.surrealism, I think it's better to make at least two... alt.dadaism(discussion *about* dadaism) and alt.dadaism.creation (*dadaistic* posts or posts including dadaistic creative writings, ads of personal web-pages with their own dadaistic works..etc.). (sometimes reading lots of other people's creations could be a little painful, when it is not what you are looking for .... ;-) I have several questions.... 1.Where and how do I find who created a certain newsgroup? What other informations are available (and how and where) about the newsgroup itself and its creator?(I don't mean FAQ, "About this newsgroup" posts..) 2. Do I have to be responsible in any sense for a non-moderated newsgroup I created, even it's for a public purpose(like alt.dadaism)? 3.On which server are all the messages originally stored? ( If I send control message using my ISP's account, will it be my ISP's newsserver??) thanks in advance for the follow-ups allegedly christopher -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNeFC9IKlMa7fpF9eEQKOpgCfdk4EPhau2Ns3FtAdQ7bCb1rjLokAoJQI kP6+O1hpWDI2Z0HpaXue77gJ =gq8E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Path: news.he.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: responsibility? Date: 24 Aug 1998 16:04:13 PDT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 69 Message-ID: <35e3dc93.2189169 @ news.concentric.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts001d06.aus-tx.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1138 On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 04:40:33 +0900, hmm @ hmm.hmm (allegedly christopher) wrote: > >I have several questions.... > >1.Where and how do I find who created a certain newsgroup? > What other informations are available (and how and where) about the >newsgroup itself and its creator?(I don't mean FAQ, "About this >newsgroup" posts..) What information is available can be found at ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/control/ You should be able to find the control.newgroup message that created the group there. The message should tell you who created the group, when it was created, and it may have a charter. Many do not have charters since none is required, as opposed to needed. Depending on how long ago since the group was created you might be able to find the creating post, or a reference to it , at http://www.dejanews.com or/and http://www.reference.com > >2. Do I have to be responsible in any sense for a non-moderated newsgroup I >created, even it's for a public purpose(like alt.dadaism)? You will have no responsibility, or control, over it once it is created. > >3.On which server are all the messages originally stored? > ( If I send control message using my ISP's account, will it be my ISP's >newsserver??) Messages are stored on each/every news server that allows the newsgroup to be created on it. It will be on your ISP's news server only if they accept it. Even if they do not accept it for inclusion on their news server your control.newgroup message will go out. (assuming your ISP allows control.newgroup messages to be posted. A few don't) Some news servers take the control.newgroup message and automatically create the group immediately. Some pass the message on to the system administrator and he/she makes the decision on weather or not to create/accept the group on their news server. Many ISP's add alt. groups only when the group is requested by a customer. Messages are passed from one news server to another, in sort of a cascade affect, until all news servers on Usenet system have seen the message. ( There are some exceptions but I won't go into that) >thanks in advance for the follow-ups > >allegedly christopher > > There are several good web sites that go into how Usenet works. Just enter Usenet in the search engine. I also recommend the book "Managing Usenet" by Henry Spencer and David Lawrence and published by O'Reilly if you want to get into it. The book can be found at http://www.amazon.com . Hope this helps. Regards, Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> eacalame @ flash.net Austin, Texas USA http://www.angelfire.com/tx/calame
Path: news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.wli.net!203.216.4.6!newsfeed.gol.com!nspixp2!newsfeed.btnis.ad.jp!np0.iij.ad.jp!news.iij.ad.jp!news.din.or.jp!not-for-mail From: yawn @ yawn.yawn (allegedly christopher) Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: responsibility? Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:04:51 +0900 Organization: . Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <35e3dc93.2189169 @ news.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp02-085.din.or.jp X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.10 x-no-archive: yes Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1139 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eugene, thank you very much!!! :-) allegecly christopher -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNeJT74KlMa7fpF9eEQJnPgCgtXp6g8+gahN56nc22xFsCmejNOYAmwZQ Kaod9sEuFp6CwR0tVzdKHwpx =zSN5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Path: news.pacbell.net!news.pbi.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!Supernews60!supernews.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: "Gemini Mailing" Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Serious question regarding newsgroup creation Date: 23 Aug 1998 20:04:24 GMT Organization: Gemini Mailing Consultants Lines: 12 Message-ID: <01bdced1$a25c8120$9518a5ce @ gemimail> X-Complaints-To: abuse @ globalcenter.net X-Posted-By: @緎.165.24.149 (gemimail) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1132 I have read the postings here regarding creating new newsgroups via the alt.config process. My problem is that I find it difficult to believe that this is the only means of doing so. This is because I cannot fathom how alt.sex.gangbang and its ilk got through that process. Then there are groups like alt.delete.this.newsgroup and alt.silly.little.newsgroup, not mention free.toy.with.every.happy.meal. Where did these come from? There are newsgroups with misspelled words like alt.sex.masterbation as well as the correct alt.sex.masturbation. Finally there are the stupid personal newsgroups such as alt.women.want.sex.with.joebob, alt.asshole.ronald-g-valiant, and alt.bonehead.asst-principal.mark.schmidt. What gives here?
Path: dallas-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldfeed.gte.net!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: Serious question regarding newsgroup creation Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 20:30:31 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 61 Message-ID: <35e27223.4655547 @ news.flash.net> References: <01bdced1$a25c8120$9518a5ce @ gemimail> NNTP-Posting-Host: p138.amax8.dialup.aus1.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1133 On 23 Aug 1998 20:04:24 GMT, "Gemini Mailing" wrote: >I have read the postings here regarding creating new newsgroups via the >alt.config process. My problem is that I find it difficult to believe that >this is the only means of doing so. This is because I cannot fathom how >alt.sex.gangbang and its ilk got through that process. Then there are >groups like alt.delete.this.newsgroup and alt.silly.little.newsgroup, not >mention free.toy.with.every.happy.meal. Where did these come from? There >are newsgroups with misspelled words like alt.sex.masterbation as well as >the correct alt.sex.masturbation. Finally there are the stupid personal >newsgroups such as alt.women.want.sex.with.joebob, >alt.asshole.ronald-g-valiant, and alt.bonehead.asst-principal.mark.schmidt. > What gives here? Greetings, An opinion. No, you do not absolutely have to go through the process. I quote you the first paragraph of one of the mainstay FAQ's located at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html "There are no Guidelines or Rules for creating alt groups. There is no one "in charge" of the alt hierarchy. The key to creating a successful alt newsgroup depends only on convincing the thousands of news administrators across the globe to carry your newsgroup. Here are some tips that will help you achieve this. " I will add to the above quote that you must have a properly formatted header for the group to be created. Also the name must fit certain conditions that is demanded not by any one system administrator but by software. See http://www.faqs.org/usenet/alt/naming.html The purpose of going through alt.config is to eliminate duplications and errors in the name of the newsgroup. Unfortunately there are people there that tend to be abrasive and offer little more than nonsense for help. Ignore them. You will get some good advice. Consider their suggestions carefully. The purpose of the alt. hierarchy, unlike the big eight newsgroups, is to give free reign to people in creating a newsgroup. Creation of a big eight newsgroup requires you to jump through some hoops before your group will be sanctioned for use on Usenet. You can create a newsgroup, in any hierarchy, anytime you send a proper control.newgroup message; Even a big eight newsgroup. However, the big eight will be, for the most part, successfully control.rmgroup, if you don't follow procedures. An alt. newsgroup will not. Controls vary from hierarchy to hierarchy. The paragraph I quoted before also states that; " The key to creating a successful alt newsgroup depends only on convincing the thousands of news administrators across the globe to carry your newsgroup". Following a few simple rules goes a long way in convincing the system administrations to carry the group. They don't have to carry them, even the big eight, just like you don't have to subscribe to them. Other opinions? Regards, Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net>Austin, Texas USA http://www.angelfire.com/tx/Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net>/
Path: feed2.news.erols.com!erols!not-for-mail From: "Seabush" Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: Serious question regarding newsgroup creation Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 20:12:53 -0400 Organization: RCN Internet Lines: 95 Message-ID: <6rqb9f$gb6$1 @ winter.news.erols.com> References: <01bdced1$a25c8120$9518a5ce @ gemimail> <35e27223.4655547 @ news.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-172-52-191.s191.tnt1.brd.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 903917679 16742 207.172.52.191 (24 Aug 1998 00:14:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse @ rcn.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1135 I agree with Eugene. I personally didn't go through the alt.config process. I created a newsgroup within 10 minutes. My only problem with not going throug alt.config was that if I had done so it would have caught some errors I had when creating cmsg message. This error resulted in my newsgroup not being widely propagated with various news servers. With Eugene's help, I corrected this error recently. My only advice is that if you don't go through alt.config that you carefully read the newsgroup creation guides Eugene refers to so that your cmsg message is developed properly. -- Seabush Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> wrote in message <>35e27223.4655547 @ news.flash.net;... >On 23 Aug 1998 20:04:24 GMT, "Gemini Mailing" <gemimail @ primenet.com> wrote: > >>I have read the postings here regarding creating new newsgroups via the >>alt.config process. My problem is that I find it difficult to believethat >>this is the only means of doing so. This is because I cannot fathom how >>alt.sex.gangbang and its ilk got through that process. Then there are >>groups like alt.delete.this.newsgroup and alt.silly.little.newsgroup, not >>mention free.toy.with.every.happy.meal. Where did these come from? There >>are newsgroups with misspelled words like alt.sex.masterbation as well as >>the correct alt.sex.masturbation. Finally there are the stupid personal >>newsgroups such as alt.women.want.sex.with.joebob, >>alt.asshole.ronald-g-valiant, and alt.bonehead.asst-principal.mark.schmidt. >> What gives here? > >Greetings, > >An opinion. > >No, you do not absolutely have to go through the process. I quote you the first >paragraph of one of the mainstay FAQ's located at >http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html > >"There are no Guidelines or Rules for creating alt groups. There is no one "in >charge" of the alt hierarchy. The key to creating a successful alt newsgroup >depends only on convincing the thousands of news administrators across the globe >to carry your newsgroup. Here are some tips that will help you achieve this. " > >I will add to the above quote that you must have a properly formatted header for >the group to be created. Also the name must fit certain conditions that is >demanded not by any one system administrator but by software. See >http://www.faqs.org/usenet/alt/naming.html > >The purpose of going through alt.config is to eliminate duplications and errors >in the name of the newsgroup. Unfortunately there are people there that tend to >be abrasive and offer little more than nonsense for help. Ignore them. You >will get some good advice. Consider their suggestions carefully. > >The purpose of the alt. hierarchy, unlike the big eight newsgroups, is to give >free reign to people in creating a newsgroup. Creation of a big eight newsgroup >requires you to jump through some hoops before your group will be sanctioned >for use on Usenet. You can create a newsgroup, in any hierarchy, anytime you >send a proper control.newgroup message; Even a big eight newsgroup. However, >the big eight will be, for the most part, successfully control.rmgroup, if you >don't follow procedures. An alt. newsgroup will not. Controls vary from >hierarchy to hierarchy. > >The paragraph I quoted before also states that; " The key to creating a >successful alt newsgroup depends only on convincing the thousands of news >administrators across the globe to carry your newsgroup". Following a few simple >rules goes a long way in convincing the system administrations to carry the >group. They don't have to carry them, even the big eight, just like you don't >have to subscribe to them. > >Other opinions? > >Regards, >Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net>>Austin, Texas USA www.angelfire.com/tx//
Path: newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.71.0.48!news-out.internetmci.com!news.mci2004.com!not-for-mail From: JWaynick Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Change the Post from name Lines: 5 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:08:31 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.55.57.97 X-Trace: news.mci2004.com 903881499 166.55.57.97 (Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:11:39 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:11:39 GMT Organization: MCI2004 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1130 Can someone tell me how to change the name that I post from? For example, I want to change it from JWaynick to JWW. Thanks, JWW
Path: news.pacbell.net!news.pbi.net!howland.erols.net!worldfeed.gte.net!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: eaEugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> @ flash.net (Eugene A. Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net>) Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: Change the Post from name Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 20:43:36 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 29 Message-ID: <35e37d92.7583513 @ news.flash.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p138.amax8.dialup.aus1.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1134 On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:08:31 -0400, "JWaynick" wrote: >Can someone tell me how to change the name that I post from? For example, I >want to change it from JWaynick to JWW. >Thanks, JWW > Greetings, I can't help but maybe I can point you to a source that can. Check out news:microsoft.public.inetexplorer.ie4.outlookexpress . It should be on your ISP's news server. Also go to the Microsoft home pages and look around for information. Somewhere there should be a place for you to change the name. Look for a menu selections like options, preferences, or the like. Maybe someone else here can help. Have you thought of downloading Netscape 4.5 . It is freeware and has an excellent newsreader. Regards, Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Austin, Texas USAhttp://www.angelfire.com/tx/Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net>/
Path: howland.erols.net!news-nyc.telia.net!feeder.qis.net!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: "Gemini Mailing" Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: Change the Post from name Date: 24 Aug 1998 02:23:41 GMT Organization: Gemini Mailing Consultants Lines: 21 Message-ID: <01bdcf06$a1b52a80$1514a5ce @ gemimail> References: <35e37d92.7583513 @ news.flash.net> X-Complaints-To: abuse @ globalcenter.net X-Posted-By: @ 206.165.20.21 (gemimail) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1136 If you use Internet Mail to log on to your ISP, you can pull down Mail, pick Options, and then click on Server. The top window called Name: is the handle that your ISP puts on all postings to anything whether it be newsgroups, e-mail, or whatever. What you cannot change without working with your ISP is your logon name, but that is not used in postings. I regularly change the entry in the Name: window as I switch from leaving messages for business purposes to personal ones and back. The entry in this Name: window is what shows up on a messages and postings when I do that. Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> wrote in article <35e37d92.7583513 @ news.flash.net>... > On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:08:31 -0400, "JWaynick" wrote: > > >Can someone tell me how to change the name that I post from? For example, I > >want to change it from JWaynick to JWW. > >Thanks, JWW > >

Path: su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!netnews.com!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon01.swbell.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <35DF69F0.77C6B692 @ postoffice.swbell.net> From: Papa Reply-To: papagtg @ swbell.net Organization: Biker Poets of Texas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-SBIS-NC404 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: How? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------ E280121119C7DDAAC8E8BC8E" Lines: 28 Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:01:37 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.193.14.19 X-Complaints-To: abuse @ swbell.net X-Trace: typhoon01.swbell.net 903834305 207.193.14.19 (Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:05:05 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:05:05 CDT Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1129 Hello all, I wish to start a newsgroup for Pagan Biker Poets... How do I do this... Papa George Gardner Netscape Conference Address Netscape Conference DLS Server Additional Information: Last Name First Name George Gardner Version 2.1
Path: news.pacbell.net!news.pbi.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.wli.net!209.30.0.45!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: How? Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:29:50 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 604 Message-ID: <35e0192e.2346188 @ news.flash.net> References: <35DF69F0.77C6B692 @ postoffice.swbell.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p72.amax2.dialup.aus1.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1131 On Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:01:37 -0500, Papa wrote: >Hello all, >I wish to start a newsgroup for Pagan Biker Poets... >How do I do this... >Papa Guides for Creating Newsgroups Index: Guide for Creating a Big Eight or Local Newsgroup Guide for Creating an alt.newsgroup Greetings, The guides below should answer most, if not all, of your questions about newsgroup creation. The heart of the guide is the standard FAQ's and where they can be found. The guides attempts to fill in spots where the FAQ's are vague. The alt. And, so called, big eight newsgroups, are international in scope. They should not be used if the subject is of local interest only. An example, of a local newsgroup, would be a newsgroup about the lakes near Austin, Texas. Such a newsgroup should be created under the austin.* hierarchy. Alt. newsgroups are simple to create and require only that you place a proposal in the newsgroup alt.config for critique. After that, and you have considered all valid comments, you can send the control.newgroup control post to create the group. The second guide pasted below covers the creation of an alt. newsgroup in detail. A proposed big eight newsgroup must complete a process of review, discussion, (RFD or Request for Discussion), and voting. (CFV or Call for Votes.) The process is long. Usually three months or more. The process is started by sending an outline, of your proposed newsgroup, to group-mentors @ acpub.duke.edu. A proposed new newsgroup must gather one hundred yes votes more than no votes and the yes votes must be two thirds, of the total votes. The process is run by appointed mentors. The process, with examples, are thoroughly covered in the FAQ's listed in the guide and requires no further explanation. The reward for following the more involved big eight process is assured distribution of your newsgroup worldwide. The alt. newsgroup may, or may not, be accepted by Usenet news servers. Local, regional and national newsgroup hierarchies have their own requirements and must be contacted for those requirements. Please keep in mind that once the newsgroup is created the group is not yours. It is in the public domain and you have little, or no, real control over it. There are no charges for creating a newsgroup. Nor do you have to provide any software or storage space on your computer. ============================================= Guide for Creating a Big Eight or Local Newsgroup Revised 1 May 1998 Creating newsgroups for the comp., humanities., misc., news., rec., sci., soc. or talk. hierarchies, the big eight, is somewhat complicated but has mentors to guide you through the process. A proposed big eight newsgroup must complete a process of review, discussion, (RFD or Request for Discussion), and voting. (CFV or Call for Votes.) The process is long. Usually three months or more. The process is started by sending an outline, of your proposed newsgroup, to group-mentors @ acpub.duke.edu. A proposed new newsgroup must gather one hundred yes votes more than no votes and the yes votes must be two thirds, of the total votes. The process is run by appointed mentors. The process, with examples, are thoroughly covered in the FAQ's listed in the guide and requires no further explanation. For information on starting a big eight newsgroup read the following documents. http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/ http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/how-submit.faq http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/good-proposal.faq http://www.faqs.org/usenet/alt/naming.html For information on starting a moderated newsgroup read the following documents. http://www.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/news/moderated-ng-faq For information on starting a local, regional or national hierarchy newsgroup locate that groups config, or general, newsgroup. ( Example: austin.usenet.config ). I have found that at times you will not be able to obtain such information from the newsgroups. You would then contact your ISP and try to obtain such information, or advice, from the system administrator. After all attempts to obtain the conventional procedures for creating a newsgroup in the hierarchy have failed go ahead and sent the newgroup control message. You can do no harm. The newgroup control message will either be accepted or rejected by the system administrators. (You may also then receive the information you were seeking along with other suggestions :-) =============================================== Guide for Creating an alt.newsgroup Revised 1 May 1997 index: First things first: More useful information: Information for starting a moderated newsgroup: An Overview: Creating your newsgroup: Example newgroup Proposals Newsreaders That Will Send a Newgroup Control Message: Example, newgroup control post; header and body: Example newgroup Booster What Comes After: Follow Up: First things first: Download, print out, make a file, and read the following. (Very important) http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/good-newgroup.html For information on starting a moderated newsgroup read the following documents. http://www.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/news/moderated-ng-faq An Overview: NO ONE can keep you from creating an alt. newsgroup. NO ONE can make a Internet Service Provider (ISP) carry your group on their server. NO ONE can effectively remove your group, except the Internet service provider, and then only from his server. Most servers automatically reject rmgroup messages. There are no charges for creating a newsgroup nor do you have to provide any software or storage space on your computer. Creating a successful alt. newsgroup will take about two-weeks. Distribution over the usenet system, once created, may take as much as a month or more. (You should see some results within minutes.) There are no votes needed for alt.* newsgroups. A charter is not required but you should provide a description of the groups purpose. A format familiar to system administrators should be used so that they can quickly determine if it is of interest to their operation. (That is the purpose of following the format of the template) Justification for the group should explain why it is needed. A large mailing list and/or frequent discussion of your newsgroup subject, in other newsgroups, should be mentioned. Post supporting your proposal should be sent to your e-mail address. NOT alt.config. You can summarize the messages of support in the justification portion of the control message. In your control.newgroup message you should mention that the newsgroup was proposed and discussed in alt.config, giving the date (and ideally the Message-ID) of the proposal. This information should appear early in the message since many news administrators, will ignore any newgroup messages that don't mention alt.config in the first page. ( I suggest putting the information in the comments portion, in the body, and the summary field of the header.) The biggest obstacle you will have to overcome is getting the Internet service provider, systems administrator, to allow your newsgroup on their server. Good propagation is second, in importance, only to the proper creation of your newsgroup and is more difficult to obtain. If your creation is on one or two servers, out of several thousand, your creation will fail. That is why following the documents (FAQ's), while writing the proposal, control and booster post, is important. Creating your newsgroup: The group you want to create may already exist. Download and check ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/config/ (select newsgroups.z). This will give you a complete list of alt. newsgroups, and hierarchies, in existence; not necessarily in use. The list will help you name and place your newsgroup in the proper hierarchy. (very important) Creating a newsgroup essentially involves three stages. Writing a proposal which will be posted to alt.config for discussion. Writing a control.newgroup post which can be the same as the proposal except it has control: and approved: fields in the header. Writing booster post after the newsgroup is created. The booster is exactly the same as the control.newgroup post except at the beginning of the message, in the body, after a blank line, the word "booster" is written. Control and booster post are posted to alt.config and the newsgroup you are creating. (alt.config,alt.group-name) The best source of information, concerning the creation of an alt. Newsgroup, is contained in a document titled "How To Write a Good Newsgroup Message" by Mr. Brian Edmonds. It can be found at URL http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/good-newgroup.html Pay particular attention to his "must", "should" and "should not" instructions. The document by Mr. David Barr is also strongly recommended; especially the part about newsgroup naming conventions. Naming your newsgroup is extremely important. Some news servers cannot work with improperly named newsgroups because of software limitations . It can be found at the web URL address http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html The Proposal When you prepare your newsgroup proposal try to keep the discussion of the proposal too one screen if possible. A long proposal may not be read. Use the comments, charter and justification sections of the template example, below, as a guide. Let your proposal stay on alt.config, for discussion, about a week. There may be suggestions for changes. Consider the suggestions carefully. If there are no suggestions you can assume the proposal is acceptable. Then, incorporating any changes, you deem necessary, send your newgroup control post. ==sample proposal to be sent to alt.config for critique (template)== Newsgroups: alt.config Subject: [PROPOSAL] alt.the-name-of-your-newsgroup Comments: Who you are and what your newsgroup is about. For your newsgroups file: newsgroup name A few words describing the newsgroup. One line. Do not run over. {Follow the format above exactly; copy the first line "For your newsgroups file: " verbatim, and on the second line give the name of the newsgroup, followed by one or more spaces followed by a few words describing the group. Do not run over the end of the line!) Charter: The purpose of the charter is to define what topics are (or are not) appropriate for the newsgroup, and to state any applicable policies of the newsgroup (for example, no binaries if the group is not a binary newsgroup.) Justification of Readership: Here you should include numerical evidence that there is substantial online interest in the topic of the newsgroup. If the topic is covered by an existing newsgroup, mailing list, or other discussion forum, you should also explain why the existing forum is no longer adequate for the purpose. This also applies to creating a specialized subgroup of a more general newsgroup; you will need to explain why the split is necessary ("we don't want to use the general group" is not considered an adequate reason-- only a high volume of traffic in the general group, and/or a high percentage of that traffic being on this specific sub-topic, is considered a valid justification for a split). ===end of sample proposal post to alt.config (template)=== The Free Agent Newsreader (Agent is essentially the same) To obtain the required headers with Free Agent you must find the agent.ini file (agent configure with windows 95 or just agent). Open the file by clicking on the icon and using notepad. Find the section labeled [message] and then find ShowAllFields=0. Change ShowAllFields=0 to ShowAllFields=1. Save and Close the file. Close and restart Free Agent. Click Post on the menu. Click New Usenet Message. Click message on the menu Click on All Fields. The last action will open a new fields box. In this new box you will find the new control and approved headers. You can scroll the fields using the buttons on the right side of the box. To enter data in the control field highlight the control field by clicking on it. Below the box you will see a box now marked as Value for control. In this box enter the control data. Click on the highlighted control again and the data in the value box will be transferred to the highlighted control field. Repeat the operation for the approved field and all fields you wish to change in the box. The Control Message: Your proposal has been posted and you have finished making any changes you deemed needed. You are now ready to send your control.newgroup message to create the newsgroup. Below you will find a sample (template) that will help you format that message. You will notice that the body is almost the same as the proposal was. All that is changed is the comments: section. The focus of this section is the formatting of the headers. You must have Approved: and Control: fields in the header. ==START OF CONTROL.NEWGROUP TEMPLATE====== ======braces are for grouping only. Do not use ==== From: {email address of person sending this message} Newsgroups: alt.config,{alt.name-of-newsgroup-being-created} Control: newgroup {name of newsgroup being created} Subject: cmsg newgroup {name of newsgroup being created} Summary: discussed in alt.config, substantial interest, appropriate name Expires: {this should be left empty, in a newgroup message} Approved: {email address of person sending this message} Sender: {email address of person or administrator sending this message} Follow up-To: poster {follow ups default to emailing you, instead of posting} Reply-To: {email address of person requesting creation of the group} Distribution: {this header should be empty except for a single space character; especially don't use "Distribution: world"} Organization: {your organization or institution may be named here} Keywords: {here you may include keywords related to the topic of the group} Cc: {you may specify email addresses to send a copy of this message to} (make sure you have a blank line here, between the header, above, and the body, below) Comments: State the dates (e.g. "during 1/96") was discussed in alt.config, and who you are in relation to the proposal (especially if you aren't the original proponent). Many news administrators, will ignore any newgroup messages that don't mention the posting of the proposal to alt.config. ) For your newsgroups file: newsgroup name A few words describing the newsgroup. One line. Do not run over. {You must follow the format above exactly; copy the first line verbatim, and on the second line give the name of the newsgroup, followed by one or more spaces followed by a few words describing the group. Do not run over the end of the line!) Charter: The purpose of the charter is to define what topics are (or are not) appropriate for the newsgroup, and to state any applicable policies of the newsgroup (for example, if the group is "retro-moderated", you should explain the criteria that will be applied by the moderator or moderation software. Justification of Readership: Here you should include numerical evidence that there is substantial online interest in the topic of the newsgroup. If the topic is covered by an existing newsgroup, mailing list, or other discussion forum, you should also explain why the existing forum is no longer adequate for the purpose. ======END OF CONTROL.NEWGROUP TEMPLATE=== ===START OF SAMPLE CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE==== Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.real-estate.aust Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Control: newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Followup-To: poster Approved: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Reply-To: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Summary: Discussed in alt.config 3/14/98 Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au Keywords: real,estate,australia,buy,sell Comments: On the 3/14/98 a newgroup suggestion was posted to alt.config, Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au I am the party suggesting this newsgroup to fill a great need. For your newsgroups file: alt.real-estate.aust Bringing together buyers & sellers no middle man Charter: Appropriate topics are listing for sale by sellers & requests for purchase for Australian real estate by persons anywhere in the world. Justification for Readership: There is a great amount of on line interest in real estate transactions, as seen by commercial web sites. Many people would prefer not to expose themselves to professional sales people, thus this newsgroup should give these people in Australia & potential international investors, a forum. ===END OF SAMPLE CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE======= Cross post your control.newgroup post to alt.config and the group being creating. Only a comma between the two; no space. (alt.config,alt.group-name) A successful newgroup control post WILL NOT show up in alt.config even though it was addressed to that group. You will find it in the CONTROL newsgroup (it may be listed as control.newgroup on your ISP's server), if the post was successful. There may be 40,000, or more, post in control so It may be hard to locate. Use your find tool and If your newsreader has a filter (kill file) you might filter out the word "cancel" too get rid of most post that are of no interest too you. Sorting the group by subject can also help. You will have little trouble finding your control message if your ISP has the control.newgroup newsgroup. Every Internet service provider that accepts control.newgroup post automatically will create your group on that server immediately when received; or pass the newgroup.control post on to the system administrator for action. Always remember; You are addressing systems administrators with your proposal, control and booster post. They must make quick decisions on your newsgroup along with many others. The Booster Messages: The booster messages are control.newgroup messages. The only difference you make in the control.newgroup message is to add the words "booster" in the Summary: and Keywords: fields. Also as the first words in the body of the control.newgroup body. There are always new news servers, and system administrators, coming on line so you should send booster control.newgroup messages from time to time. I recommend posting a booster about every week for the first month after your newsgroup is created. Once a month for the next six months and perhaps once every six months to a year after that. ==START EXAMPLE BOOSTER CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE=== Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.real-estate.aust Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Control: newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Followup-To: poster Approved: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Reply-To: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Summary: Booster, Discussed in alt.config 3/14/98 Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au Keywords: Booster, real,estate,australia,buy,sell BOOSTER BOOSTERBOOSTER Comments: On the 3/14/98 a newgroup suggestion was posted to alt.config, Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au I am the party suggesting this newsgroup to fill a great need. For your newsgroups file: alt.real-estate.aust Bringing together buyers & sellers no middle man Charter: Appropriate topics are listing for sale by sellers & requests for purchase for Australian real estate by persons anywhere in the world. Justification for Readership: There is a great amount of on line interest in real estate transactions, as seen by commercial web sites. Many people would prefer not to expose themselves to professional sales people, thus this newsgroup should give these people in Australia & potential international investors, a forum. ==END EXAMPLE BOOSTER CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE=== Newsreaders That Will Send a Newgroup Control Message: What none of the FAQ's make clear is that your newsreader may not have the special header fields needed to send a control post or how to get those header fields. There MUST be "Control:" and "Approved:" fields IN the header. Free Agent, Agent and News Xpress newsreaders can produce these header fields for IBM type PC users. For Macintosh users the MT-Newswatcher can be used. All the suggested newsreaders are freeware and can be found at the URL's following..... windows 95 http://tucows.texoma.net/adnload/dlfreeagent.html http://tucows.texoma.net/adnload/dlnxpress.html windows 3.1 http://tucows.texoma.net/softnews.html#freeagent http://tucows.texoma.net/adnload/win3x/dlnewsxpress3x.html Macintosh http://tucows.texoma.net/mac/adnload/dlmtnwmac.html To configure the MT-Newswatcher perform the following. From the menu click on FILE click on PREFERENCES Scroll down to Extra header lines Type in control: Type in approved: Click OKAY The Free Agent Newsreader (Agent is essentially the same) To obtain the required headers with Free Agent you must find the agent.ini file (agent configure with windows 95 or just agent). Open the file by clicking on the icon and using notepad. Find the section labeled [message] and then find ShowAllFields=0. Change ShowAllFields=0 to ShowAllFields=1. Save and Close the file. Close and restart Free Agent. Click Post on the menu. Click New Usenet Message. Click message on the menu Click on All Fields. The last action will open a new fields box. In this new box you will find the new control and approved headers. You can scroll the fields using the buttons on the right side of the box. To enter data in the control field highlight the control field by clicking on it. Below the box you will see a box now marked as Value for control. In this box enter the control data. Click on the highlighted control again and the data in the value box will be transferred to the highlighted control field. Repeat the operation for the approved field and all fields you wish to change in the box. The News Xpress Newsreader The two News Xpress readers are simpler to configure than Free Agent. New Xpress 1.0 beta # 4 for Windows 3.xx. Click on Config. Click on Preferences. Click on Headers In the box marked Post headers template type in the control: and approved: header fields. Close the box and click Post. Your new fields will now be visible. News Xpress version 2.0 for Windows 95 Click on File Click on Options Click on Compose In the Template section , in the post headers box, type in the control: and approved: header fields. Close the box and select Post from the menu. You will now see the new control and approved header fields. What Comes After: After the control.newgroup post has been sent, and you have confirmed it was successful, you may get several post similar the one below. They are for system administrators and you need take no action. To: Subject: From: news @ duey.c4c.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 20:17:31 +0000 eacalame @ worldnet.att.net requested that alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs be created. To do this, type the following: /usr/local/news/bin/ctlinnd newgroup alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs y eacalame @ worldnet.att.net Follow Up: You have done all the above and you still do not see your newsgroup on the server of your ISP. Check for new newgroups or refresh your newsreader newsgroup list and check again. If it still is not there after a day or two give your Internet service provider a call and request that it be added. Usually a post to support @ (your ISP.net) requesting the newsgroup be added will do the trick. To get good distribution of the newsgroups encourage all, who would be interested, to ask their Internet service provider to add the group to their server. (A polite announcement, of the creation of your newsgroup, to newsgroups with similar, but specialized interest, would not be out of order.) After the new newsgroup has been up and running for a few months, you should write a review of the group and submit it to news.groups.reviews. See http://www.superb.net/~islander/ngr/ for information about news.groups.reviews. Good luck. If you need further help feel free to call on me. Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Austin, Texas USA http://www.angelfire.com/tx/calame
Path: news.pacbell.net!news.pbi.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.wli.net!209.30.0.45!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: How? Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:29:50 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 604 Message-ID: <35e0192e.2346188 @ news.flash.net> References: <35DF69F0.77C6B692 @ postoffice.swbell.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p72.amax2.dialup.aus1.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1131 On Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:01:37 -0500, Papa wrote: >Hello all, >I wish to start a newsgroup for Pagan Biker Poets... >How do I do this... >Papa Guides for Creating Newsgroups Index: Guide for Creating a Big Eight or Local Newsgroup Guide for Creating an alt.newsgroup Greetings, The guides below should answer most, if not all, of your questions about newsgroup creation. The heart of the guide is the standard FAQ's and where they can be found. The guides attempts to fill in spots where the FAQ's are vague. The alt. And, so called, big eight newsgroups, are international in scope. They should not be used if the subject is of local interest only. An example, of a local newsgroup, would be a newsgroup about the lakes near Austin, Texas. Such a newsgroup should be created under the austin.* hierarchy. Alt. newsgroups are simple to create and require only that you place a proposal in the newsgroup alt.config for critique. After that, and you have considered all valid comments, you can send the control.newgroup control post to create the group. The second guide pasted below covers the creation of an alt. newsgroup in detail. A proposed big eight newsgroup must complete a process of review, discussion, (RFD or Request for Discussion), and voting. (CFV or Call for Votes.) The process is long. Usually three months or more. The process is started by sending an outline, of your proposed newsgroup, to group-mentors @ acpub.duke.edu. A proposed new newsgroup must gather one hundred yes votes more than no votes and the yes votes must be two thirds, of the total votes. The process is run by appointed mentors. The process, with examples, are thoroughly covered in the FAQ's listed in the guide and requires no further explanation. The reward for following the more involved big eight process is assured distribution of your newsgroup worldwide. The alt. newsgroup may, or may not, be accepted by Usenet news servers. Local, regional and national newsgroup hierarchies have their own requirements and must be contacted for those requirements. Please keep in mind that once the newsgroup is created the group is not yours. It is in the public domain and you have little, or no, real control over it. There are no charges for creating a newsgroup. Nor do you have to provide any software or storage space on your computer. ============================================= Guide for Creating a Big Eight or Local Newsgroup Revised 1 May 1998 Creating newsgroups for the comp., humanities., misc., news., rec., sci., soc. or talk. hierarchies, the big eight, is somewhat complicated but has mentors to guide you through the process. A proposed big eight newsgroup must complete a process of review, discussion, (RFD or Request for Discussion), and voting. (CFV or Call for Votes.) The process is long. Usually three months or more. The process is started by sending an outline, of your proposed newsgroup, to group-mentors @ acpub.duke.edu. A proposed new newsgroup must gather one hundred yes votes more than no votes and the yes votes must be two thirds, of the total votes. The process is run by appointed mentors. The process, with examples, are thoroughly covered in the FAQ's listed in the guide and requires no further explanation. For information on starting a big eight newsgroup read the following documents. http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/ http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/how-submit.faq http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/good-proposal.faq http://www.faqs.org/usenet/alt/naming.html For information on starting a moderated newsgroup read the following documents. http://www.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/news/moderated-ng-faq For information on starting a local, regional or national hierarchy newsgroup locate that groups config, or general, newsgroup. ( Example: austin.usenet.config ). I have found that at times you will not be able to obtain such information from the newsgroups. You would then contact your ISP and try to obtain such information, or advice, from the system administrator. After all attempts to obtain the conventional procedures for creating a newsgroup in the hierarchy have failed go ahead and sent the newgroup control message. You can do no harm. The newgroup control message will either be accepted or rejected by the system administrators. (You may also then receive the information you were seeking along with other suggestions :-) =============================================== Guide for Creating an alt.newsgroup Revised 1 May 1997 index: First things first: More useful information: Information for starting a moderated newsgroup: An Overview: Creating your newsgroup: Example newgroup Proposals Newsreaders That Will Send a Newgroup Control Message: Example, newgroup control post; header and body: Example newgroup Booster What Comes After: Follow Up: First things first: Download, print out, make a file, and read the following. (Very important) http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/good-newgroup.html For information on starting a moderated newsgroup read the following documents. http://www.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/news/moderated-ng-faq An Overview: NO ONE can keep you from creating an alt. newsgroup. NO ONE can make a Internet Service Provider (ISP) carry your group on their server. NO ONE can effectively remove your group, except the Internet service provider, and then only from his server. Most servers automatically reject rmgroup messages. There are no charges for creating a newsgroup nor do you have to provide any software or storage space on your computer. Creating a successful alt. newsgroup will take about two-weeks. Distribution over the usenet system, once created, may take as much as a month or more. (You should see some results within minutes.) There are no votes needed for alt.* newsgroups. A charter is not required but you should provide a description of the groups purpose. A format familiar to system administrators should be used so that they can quickly determine if it is of interest to their operation. (That is the purpose of following the format of the template) Justification for the group should explain why it is needed. A large mailing list and/or frequent discussion of your newsgroup subject, in other newsgroups, should be mentioned. Post supporting your proposal should be sent to your e-mail address. NOT alt.config. You can summarize the messages of support in the justification portion of the control message. In your control.newgroup message you should mention that the newsgroup was proposed and discussed in alt.config, giving the date (and ideally the Message-ID) of the proposal. This information should appear early in the message since many news administrators, will ignore any newgroup messages that don't mention alt.config in the first page. ( I suggest putting the information in the comments portion, in the body, and the summary field of the header.) The biggest obstacle you will have to overcome is getting the Internet service provider, systems administrator, to allow your newsgroup on their server. Good propagation is second, in importance, only to the proper creation of your newsgroup and is more difficult to obtain. If your creation is on one or two servers, out of several thousand, your creation will fail. That is why following the documents (FAQ's), while writing the proposal, control and booster post, is important. Creating your newsgroup: The group you want to create may already exist. Download and check ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/config/ (select newsgroups.z). This will give you a complete list of alt. newsgroups, and hierarchies, in existence; not necessarily in use. The list will help you name and place your newsgroup in the proper hierarchy. (very important) Creating a newsgroup essentially involves three stages. Writing a proposal which will be posted to alt.config for discussion. Writing a control.newgroup post which can be the same as the proposal except it has control: and approved: fields in the header. Writing booster post after the newsgroup is created. The booster is exactly the same as the control.newgroup post except at the beginning of the message, in the body, after a blank line, the word "booster" is written. Control and booster post are posted to alt.config and the newsgroup you are creating. (alt.config,alt.group-name) The best source of information, concerning the creation of an alt. Newsgroup, is contained in a document titled "How To Write a Good Newsgroup Message" by Mr. Brian Edmonds. It can be found at URL http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/good-newgroup.html Pay particular attention to his "must", "should" and "should not" instructions. The document by Mr. David Barr is also strongly recommended; especially the part about newsgroup naming conventions. Naming your newsgroup is extremely important. Some news servers cannot work with improperly named newsgroups because of software limitations . It can be found at the web URL address http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html The Proposal When you prepare your newsgroup proposal try to keep the discussion of the proposal too one screen if possible. A long proposal may not be read. Use the comments, charter and justification sections of the template example, below, as a guide. Let your proposal stay on alt.config, for discussion, about a week. There may be suggestions for changes. Consider the suggestions carefully. If there are no suggestions you can assume the proposal is acceptable. Then, incorporating any changes, you deem necessary, send your newgroup control post. ==sample proposal to be sent to alt.config for critique (template)== Newsgroups: alt.config Subject: [PROPOSAL] alt.the-name-of-your-newsgroup Comments: Who you are and what your newsgroup is about. For your newsgroups file: newsgroup name A few words describing the newsgroup. One line. Do not run over. {Follow the format above exactly; copy the first line "For your newsgroups file: " verbatim, and on the second line give the name of the newsgroup, followed by one or more spaces followed by a few words describing the group. Do not run over the end of the line!) Charter: The purpose of the charter is to define what topics are (or are not) appropriate for the newsgroup, and to state any applicable policies of the newsgroup (for example, no binaries if the group is not a binary newsgroup.) Justification of Readership: Here you should include numerical evidence that there is substantial online interest in the topic of the newsgroup. If the topic is covered by an existing newsgroup, mailing list, or other discussion forum, you should also explain why the existing forum is no longer adequate for the purpose. This also applies to creating a specialized subgroup of a more general newsgroup; you will need to explain why the split is necessary ("we don't want to use the general group" is not considered an adequate reason-- only a high volume of traffic in the general group, and/or a high percentage of that traffic being on this specific sub-topic, is considered a valid justification for a split). ===end of sample proposal post to alt.config (template)=== The Free Agent Newsreader (Agent is essentially the same) To obtain the required headers with Free Agent you must find the agent.ini file (agent configure with windows 95 or just agent). Open the file by clicking on the icon and using notepad. Find the section labeled [message] and then find ShowAllFields=0. Change ShowAllFields=0 to ShowAllFields=1. Save and Close the file. Close and restart Free Agent. Click Post on the menu. Click New Usenet Message. Click message on the menu Click on All Fields. The last action will open a new fields box. In this new box you will find the new control and approved headers. You can scroll the fields using the buttons on the right side of the box. To enter data in the control field highlight the control field by clicking on it. Below the box you will see a box now marked as Value for control. In this box enter the control data. Click on the highlighted control again and the data in the value box will be transferred to the highlighted control field. Repeat the operation for the approved field and all fields you wish to change in the box. The Control Message: Your proposal has been posted and you have finished making any changes you deemed needed. You are now ready to send your control.newgroup message to create the newsgroup. Below you will find a sample (template) that will help you format that message. You will notice that the body is almost the same as the proposal was. All that is changed is the comments: section. The focus of this section is the formatting of the headers. You must have Approved: and Control: fields in the header. ==START OF CONTROL.NEWGROUP TEMPLATE====== ======braces are for grouping only. Do not use ==== From: {email address of person sending this message} Newsgroups: alt.config,{alt.name-of-newsgroup-being-created} Control: newgroup {name of newsgroup being created} Subject: cmsg newgroup {name of newsgroup being created} Summary: discussed in alt.config, substantial interest, appropriate name Expires: {this should be left empty, in a newgroup message} Approved: {email address of person sending this message} Sender: {email address of person or administrator sending this message} Follow up-To: poster {follow ups default to emailing you, instead of posting} Reply-To: {email address of person requesting creation of the group} Distribution: {this header should be empty except for a single space character; especially don't use "Distribution: world"} Organization: {your organization or institution may be named here} Keywords: {here you may include keywords related to the topic of the group} Cc: {you may specify email addresses to send a copy of this message to} (make sure you have a blank line here, between the header, above, and the body, below) Comments: State the dates (e.g. "during 1/96") was discussed in alt.config, and who you are in relation to the proposal (especially if you aren't the original proponent). Many news administrators, will ignore any newgroup messages that don't mention the posting of the proposal to alt.config. ) For your newsgroups file: newsgroup name A few words describing the newsgroup. One line. Do not run over. {You must follow the format above exactly; copy the first line verbatim, and on the second line give the name of the newsgroup, followed by one or more spaces followed by a few words describing the group. Do not run over the end of the line!) Charter: The purpose of the charter is to define what topics are (or are not) appropriate for the newsgroup, and to state any applicable policies of the newsgroup (for example, if the group is "retro-moderated", you should explain the criteria that will be applied by the moderator or moderation software. Justification of Readership: Here you should include numerical evidence that there is substantial online interest in the topic of the newsgroup. If the topic is covered by an existing newsgroup, mailing list, or other discussion forum, you should also explain why the existing forum is no longer adequate for the purpose. ======END OF CONTROL.NEWGROUP TEMPLATE=== ===START OF SAMPLE CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE==== Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.real-estate.aust Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Control: newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Followup-To: poster Approved: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Reply-To: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Summary: Discussed in alt.config 3/14/98 Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au Keywords: real,estate,australia,buy,sell Comments: On the 3/14/98 a newgroup suggestion was posted to alt.config, Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au I am the party suggesting this newsgroup to fill a great need. For your newsgroups file: alt.real-estate.aust Bringing together buyers & sellers no middle man Charter: Appropriate topics are listing for sale by sellers & requests for purchase for Australian real estate by persons anywhere in the world. Justification for Readership: There is a great amount of on line interest in real estate transactions, as seen by commercial web sites. Many people would prefer not to expose themselves to professional sales people, thus this newsgroup should give these people in Australia & potential international investors, a forum. ===END OF SAMPLE CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE======= Cross post your control.newgroup post to alt.config and the group being creating. Only a comma between the two; no space. (alt.config,alt.group-name) A successful newgroup control post WILL NOT show up in alt.config even though it was addressed to that group. You will find it in the CONTROL newsgroup (it may be listed as control.newgroup on your ISP's server), if the post was successful. There may be 40,000, or more, post in control so It may be hard to locate. Use your find tool and If your newsreader has a filter (kill file) you might filter out the word "cancel" too get rid of most post that are of no interest too you. Sorting the group by subject can also help. You will have little trouble finding your control message if your ISP has the control.newgroup newsgroup. Every Internet service provider that accepts control.newgroup post automatically will create your group on that server immediately when received; or pass the newgroup.control post on to the system administrator for action. Always remember; You are addressing systems administrators with your proposal, control and booster post. They must make quick decisions on your newsgroup along with many others. The Booster Messages: The booster messages are control.newgroup messages. The only difference you make in the control.newgroup message is to add the words "booster" in the Summary: and Keywords: fields. Also as the first words in the body of the control.newgroup body. There are always new news servers, and system administrators, coming on line so you should send booster control.newgroup messages from time to time. I recommend posting a booster about every week for the first month after your newsgroup is created. Once a month for the next six months and perhaps once every six months to a year after that. ==START EXAMPLE BOOSTER CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE=== Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.real-estate.aust Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Control: newgroup alt.real-estate.aust Followup-To: poster Approved: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Reply-To: wireit @ cyberalink.com.au Summary: Booster, Discussed in alt.config 3/14/98 Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au Keywords: Booster, real,estate,australia,buy,sell BOOSTER BOOSTERBOOSTER Comments: On the 3/14/98 a newgroup suggestion was posted to alt.config, Message ID 350a0cc1.0 @ cyberalink.com.au I am the party suggesting this newsgroup to fill a great need. For your newsgroups file: alt.real-estate.aust Bringing together buyers & sellers no middle man Charter: Appropriate topics are listing for sale by sellers & requests for purchase for Australian real estate by persons anywhere in the world. Justification for Readership: There is a great amount of on line interest in real estate transactions, as seen by commercial web sites. Many people would prefer not to expose themselves to professional sales people, thus this newsgroup should give these people in Australia & potential international investors, a forum. ==END EXAMPLE BOOSTER CONTROL.NEWGROUP MESSAGE=== Newsreaders That Will Send a Newgroup Control Message: What none of the FAQ's make clear is that your newsreader may not have the special header fields needed to send a control post or how to get those header fields. There MUST be "Control:" and "Approved:" fields IN the header. Free Agent, Agent and News Xpress newsreaders can produce these header fields for IBM type PC users. For Macintosh users the MT-Newswatcher can be used. All the suggested newsreaders are freeware and can be found at the URL's following..... windows 95 http://tucows.texoma.net/adnload/dlfreeagent.html http://tucows.texoma.net/adnload/dlnxpress.html windows 3.1 http://tucows.texoma.net/softnews.html#freeagent http://tucows.texoma.net/adnload/win3x/dlnewsxpress3x.html Macintosh http://tucows.texoma.net/mac/adnload/dlmtnwmac.html To configure the MT-Newswatcher perform the following. From the menu click on FILE click on PREFERENCES Scroll down to Extra header lines Type in control: Type in approved: Click OKAY The Free Agent Newsreader (Agent is essentially the same) To obtain the required headers with Free Agent you must find the agent.ini file (agent configure with windows 95 or just agent). Open the file by clicking on the icon and using notepad. Find the section labeled [message] and then find ShowAllFields=0. Change ShowAllFields=0 to ShowAllFields=1. Save and Close the file. Close and restart Free Agent. Click Post on the menu. Click New Usenet Message. Click message on the menu Click on All Fields. The last action will open a new fields box. In this new box you will find the new control and approved headers. You can scroll the fields using the buttons on the right side of the box. To enter data in the control field highlight the control field by clicking on it. Below the box you will see a box now marked as Value for control. In this box enter the control data. Click on the highlighted control again and the data in the value box will be transferred to the highlighted control field. Repeat the operation for the approved field and all fields you wish to change in the box. The News Xpress Newsreader The two News Xpress readers are simpler to configure than Free Agent. New Xpress 1.0 beta # 4 for Windows 3.xx. Click on Config. Click on Preferences. Click on Headers In the box marked Post headers template type in the control: and approved: header fields. Close the box and click Post. Your new fields will now be visible. News Xpress version 2.0 for Windows 95 Click on File Click on Options Click on Compose In the Template section , in the post headers box, type in the control: and approved: header fields. Close the box and select Post from the menu. You will now see the new control and approved header fields. What Comes After: After the control.newgroup post has been sent, and you have confirmed it was successful, you may get several post similar the one below. They are for system administrators and you need take no action. To: Subject: From: news @ duey.c4c.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 20:17:31 +0000 e.Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> @ worldnet.att.net requested that alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs be created. To do this, type the following: /usr/local/news/bin/ctlinnd newgroup alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs y e.Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> @ worldnet.att.net Follow Up: You have done all the above and you still do not see your newsgroup on the server of your ISP. Check for new newgroups or refresh your newsreader newsgroup list and check again. If it still is not there after a day or two give your Internet service provider a call and request that it be added. Usually a post to support @ (your ISP.net) requesting the newsgroup be added will do the trick. To get good distribution of the newsgroups encourage all, who would be interested, to ask their Internet service provider to add the group to their server. (A polite announcement, of the creation of your newsgroup, to newsgroups with similar, but specialized interest, would not be out of order.) After the new newsgroup has been up and running for a few months, you should write a review of the group and submit it to news.groups.reviews. See http://www.superb.net/~islander/ngr/ for information about news.groups.reviews. Good luck. If you need further help feel free to call on me. Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Austin, Texas USA http://www.angelfire.com/tx/calame ssooooo
Path: WCG!news2.ais.net!jamie!ais.net!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!HME1-2.newsfeed.sprint.ca!HME1-2.newscontent.sprint.ca!not-for-mail Message-ID: <35DB8B8B.55383775 @ geocities.com> From: Dara Organization: Cool-a-zoid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: ssooooo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 8 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:35:56 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.103.52.171 X-Complaints-To: abuse @ sprint.ca X-Trace: HME1-2.newscontent.sprint.ca 903580690 209.103.52.171 (Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:38:10 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:38:10 EDT Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1128 sooo, how *do* we create a newsgroup? and if we create it, do we 'run' it or is that taken care of by something else? -- _ࡱ_
Path: 207.33.1.6.MISMATCH!news.he.net!Supernews60!supernews.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc2.occa.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup From: 7D778665B @ HFIISDY.2234 (Martini) Subject: Re: a simple q i think References: <6r4mci$2bi$1 @ heliodor.xara.net> X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Lines: 23 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 00:47:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.1.178.109 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:47:16 PDT Organization: @ Home Network Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1126 In article <6r4mci$2bi$1 @ heliodor.xara.net>, "Misc" wrote: >ok... >I want to create a newsgroup. I don't care what it is called (doesn't have >to be .alt) the name can be as messy as hell for all i care but it must >exist! Can somebody tell me where you go to make a newsgroup on a server, is >it that simple... well it should be! I have a deja news Newsgroup, can i >read this news from my outlook express/ free agent? > >Please help! > >Regards > >Adam Ranson > >PS how did u make this newsgroup? & if alt.buttharp can get one why can't i? > Just because you can, doesnt mean you should. Put some thought into what you want to do, the follow the directions for doing it. _____________________________________ m a r t i n b 1 [a t] h o m e . c o m

Path: cyclone.swbell.net!news.idt.net!feed.nntp.acc.ca!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!HME1-2.newsfeed.sprint.ca!HME1-2.newscontent.sprint.ca!not-for-mail From: "Chris and Tracy" Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Help!!! Lines: 8 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 07:10:15 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.103.0.249 X-Complaints-To: abuse @ sprint.ca X-Trace: HME1-2.newscontent.sprint.ca 903535796 209.103.0.249 (Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:09:56 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:09:56 EDT Organization: Sprint Canada Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1125 All my subscribed newsgroups are screwed up! They won't load new messages and when I try to read a message it says message expired.(NO such article) Help Chris
Path: 128.230.129.112.MISMATCH!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc2.occa.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup From: 7D778665B @ HFIISDY.2234 (Martini) Reply-To: findlay @ sprint.ca Subject: Re: Help!!! References: X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4pKC1.8533$K35.3108120 @ news.rdc2.occa.home.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 00:50:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.1.178.109 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:50:08 PDT Organization: @ Home Network Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1127 In article , "Chris and Tracy" wrote: >All my subscribed newsgroups are screwed up! They won't load new messages >and when I try to read a message it says message expired.(NO such article) > >Help >Chris Try to reload the newsrc file from the server. In OE, in the left window, right click on your news server name, and select newsgroups. Then when the list pops up, click on "reset list" _____________________________________ m a r t i n b 1 [a t] h o m e . c o m
Path: 128.230.129.112.MISMATCH!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: who control the misc.immigration.canada ? Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:31:36 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 30 Message-ID: <35dcb5f0.1948848 @ news.flash.net> References: <6rdnkp$ru3 @ newsops.execpc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p214.amax20.dialup.aus1.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1124 On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:28:58 -0500, "do_it_yourself" do_yourself_kit @ yahoo.com wrote: >Anybody knows who manage the misc. ... >My problem : > This group seems are under the control of a group of > immigration lawyers. >Any other posting that is conflict with their >business interest are taken out very quickly from >the newsgroup which those law's posting are >staying there long. >I don't know who manage the newsgroup, and if the group >management block the free speeach right of inividual right. >e-mail your reply to: do_yourself_kit @ yahoo.com > I don't know. As far as I can tell the group is not moderated. Generally no one controls what goes on a newsgroup unless it is moderated. It may be that someone is canceling the post that they don't think belong there. It happens. It is called retro-moderating. To find information on the subject use one of the search engines for the web. Check the pseudo newsgroup control, or it may be control.cancel. That is where you will see the conrol.cancel messages. There are a lot of control.cancel messages so it will be hard to find what you want. Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Austin, Texas USA http://www.angelfire.com/tx/calame
Path: howland.erols.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: Question for Eugene Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:17:33 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 15 Message-ID: <35dbb399.1350678 @ news.flash.net> References: <6rcj0k$8d4$1 @ holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p214.amax20.dialup.aus1.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1123 On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:03:19 -0400, "Wild Card" wrote: >OK. I visited the link you pointed me to, but when I try to post my cmsg to >alt.config, I get a message that reads "Error 441. 'Newgroup not a valid >control' ". The control is formatted as per the instructions but no luck. >Any ideas? > Send me the total message, headers and all, so that I can look at your control.newgroup message. If I can help I will. I know earthlink.net will accept control.newgroup messages unless they changed policies in the last few months. Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Austin, Texas USA

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Path: news.pacbell.net!news.pbi.net!howland.erols.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: eaEugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> @ flash.net (Eugene A. Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net>) Newsgroups: alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: Question for Eugene Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:17:33 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 15 Message-ID: <35dbb399.1350678 @ news.flash.net> References: <6rcj0k$8d4$1 @ holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p214.amax20.dialup.aus1.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup:1123 On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:03:19 -0400, "Wild Card" wrote: >OK. I visited the link you pointed me to, but when I try to post my cmsg to >alt.config, I get a message that reads "Error 441. 'Newgroup not a valid >control' ". The control is formatted as per the instructions but no luck. >Any ideas? > Send me the total message, headers and all, so that I can look at your control.newgroup message. If I can help I will. I know earthlink.net will accept control.newgroup messages unless they changed policies in the last few months. Eugene A. Calame <eacalame @ flash.net> Austin, Texas USA http://www.angelfire.com/tx/calame
Path: su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news-dc.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-feed.netvision.net.il!news.NetVision.net.il!not-for-mail From: Nicole Lasher Newsgroups: alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: Cancel bot needed. Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:45:42 +0300 Organization: NetVision LTD. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <35E1FB26.4B0B561D @ netvision.net.il> References: <35D8CE60.92F54B40 @ netvision.net.il> <35e34c79.309447596 @ news.alt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ras3-p100.hfa.netvision.net.il Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup:130 Not yet, but I'm still in the information gathering stages. I was considering starting a new newsgroup, but don't even want to think about it until I know whether or not there is a way to handle abusive posters. Reporting them to their ISP's or anyone else doesn't help, so I'm going into this thing with "guns loaded" so to speak. There are a couple of NG's that I would volunteer to moderate, but the people who created them are long gone, or just not speaking up and I wouldn't want to take something like that on without their approval...sort of an honor thing. Besides, if they don't care, why should I? I think the best solution would be just to start a new newsgroup...but as I said, I'm not going into it defenseless. ~Niki The Archiver wrote: > Nicole Lasher wrote: > > >Does anyone know where I can find a cancel bot for newsgroups? > >One of those that cancels posts that don't have a pertinent word or term > >in the subject or text of the message.... > > Do you have permission to retromoderate any newsgroup (this is what > this robot would do) ? > > The Archvier
Path: howland.erols.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!meganews!conrad.telstra.net!not-for-mail From: phillip @ corryong.albury.net.au (Barcoo Rot) Newsgroups: alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup Subject: How DO you moderate a NG?? Message-ID: <35df7403.700128 @ news.albury.net.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Lines: 4 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:17:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.17.235.9 X-Complaints-To: abuse @ telstra.net X-Trace: conrad.telstra.net 903854598 203.17.235.9 (Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:43:18 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:43:18 EST Organization: Telstra Big Pond Direct Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup:125 ok, I opened this newsgroup to find out how you moderate a newsgroup and so far nobodys told me, how do you do it, or is there a site that does.
Path: howland.erols.net!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!not-for-mail From: "a. l. 'mike' rael" Newsgroups: alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: How DO you moderate a NG?? Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 09:55:24 -0400 Organization: RCN Internet Lines: 7 Message-ID: <6rp74l$h0p$1 @ winter.news.erols.com> References: <35df7403.700128 @ news.albury.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-172-37-1.s1.tnt7.ann.erols.com X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 903880661 17433 207.172.37.1 (23 Aug 1998 13:57:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse @ rcn.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup:126 Well, so far you've gotten further than I have. Wud like to know how to start one, how to moderate it and who has to give the okay - if anyone. Also how does one get posted to the list and what are the requirements. Is there some site that one can go to and get all the pertinent info and then some help with it. Mike
Path: news.pacbell.net!news.pbi.net!newsfeed.yosemite.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.wli.net!207.126.101.73!Supernews73!supernews.com!news.alt.net!usenet From: archiver @ i3w.com (The Archiver) Newsgroups: alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: How DO you moderate a NG?? Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:19:49 GMT Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - http://www.altopia.com Lines: 32 Message-ID: <35e24b2f.309117958 @ news.alt.net> References: <35df7403.700128 @ news.albury.net.au> <6rp74l$h0p$1 @ winter.news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup:128 "a. l. 'mike' rael" wrote: >Wud like to know how to start one, Depending on the hierarchy where you want to create: Go to the "config"-group there, read the "FAQ" and act. For "alt"-groups its the "alt.config". There are FAQs posted frequently. READ them before you ask again. >how to moderate it See my previous answer. For "non-picture"-groups you may want to read the periodical announcements of Igor Chudov. He has created a web-based moderation system, too. > and who has to give the okay - if anyone. In the alt-hierarchy you need "applause" and no counterparts. In the BIG-8 you need a formal vote. >Also how does one get posted to the list and what are the requirements. Is >there some site that one can go to and get all the pertinent info and then >some help with it. http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/stump/webstump HTH The Archiver
Path: su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.alt.net!usenet From: archiver @ i3w.com (The Archiver) Newsgroups: alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup Subject: Re: How DO you moderate a NG?? Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:14:34 GMT Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - http://www.altopia.com Lines: 19 Message-ID: <35e14acb.309017533 @ news.alt.net> References: <35df7403.700128 @ news.albury.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Xref: news.pacbell.net alt.how.to.moderate.a.newsgroup:127 phillip @ corryong.albury.net.au (Barcoo Rot) wrote: >ok, I opened this newsgroup to find out how you moderate a newsgroup >and so far nobodys told me, how do you do it, or is there a site that >does. You can visit the public moderation site for ABPEAP. There are some documents worth to read: http://abpeap.i3w.com Please dont fool around with this system ! There is the "moderators handbook" available in the WWW, too. HTH The Archiver
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Angelfire provides, and is solely responsible for, ALL advertisers! Even the bogus popup error/virus warnings:
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